Minutes, IBIS Quality Task Group

July 2, 2024

12:00-13:00 Eastern Time (09:00-10:00 Pacific Time)

ROLL CALL

Siemens EDA                         Randy Wolff *, Weston Beal *,
                                    Arpad Muranyi 
Teraspeed Labs                      Bob Ross 
Zuken USA                           Lance Wang *
Intel Corp.                         Michael Mirmak *
The Mathworks                       Graham Kus 


Everyone in attendance marked by *

NOTE: "AR" = Action Required.

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Randy Wolff conducted the meeting.
Weston Beal recorded the minutes.


Call for IBIS related patent disclosures:
 - None


Review of previous meeting minutes:
Minutes from the 07 MAY 2024 meetings were reviewed. Lance Wang moved to
approve the minutes. Weston Beal seconded. Without objection the minutes were
approved.


Call for opens:
   none


AR review:
 - Randy will discuss financial issue of a new version of ibischk with Tammy.
   discussion started. Randy will submit budget request before September.


New ARs:
 - Randy will continue work on estimating budget and then quoting development
   of IBISCHK8 parser development.
 - Randy will create the formal bug report using the information that Michael
   sent.


Discussion:
a. New IBISCHK7 BUG submittal
   Michael Mirmak submitted a description of a bug regarding [Diff Pin] and
   [Model Selector]. One model is referenced by 2 [Model Selector] keywords; 
   one single-ended and one differential. The parser issues a caution for this 
   condition. BUG192 in 2017 is related to this. It changes the wording of the 
   caution message. Michael said that the problem is that for large 
   components, this caution message might be issued hundreds of times. Weston 
   noted that the caution is a good idea to check that the model creator 
   double-checked the model assignments. He suggested that a good compromise 
   would be to issue the caution message only once per model in a file. 
   Michael agreed that this would be a good compromise. Randy found BUG95 from 
   2007, which discussed this issue and changed the message from a warning to 
   a caution.
   [AR] Randy will create the formal bug report using the information that 
   Michael sent.

b. IBISCHK8 parser development cost estimate for SAE ITC September budgeting
   Randy will work on this. He will review past contracts for parser 
   development to establish a reasonable estimate of the cost. The 2 past 
   contracts that we could find during the meeting had costs of $2000 and 
   $17000. Randy will work directly with Atul to get a better estimate for 
   this specific version of parser development.


Tabled topics (no discussion without motion):
 - none


Randy moved to adjourn. Weston seconded. Without objection, the meeting ended.

Meeting ended: 12:36 pm ET

Next meeting 09 JUL 2024